Justin, Most on line videos are not streamed in …

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Justin,

Most on line videos are not streamed in TRUE 720P – 1080P format. They are typically 15-17 fps. If they were true HD quality, you’d need 2 mb’s per sec down load and the bandwidth used by the supplier would be HUGE. They call it HD, but it’s not exactly.

Also, streaming at that level is taxing on CPU’s. Your bandwidth pipe better be damn good too. Any drop in the feed and it will drop FPS. Any lag in the CPU’s ability to process it and it will drop FPS.

The Revo can and does Play full 1080P HD videos. It really does. But, most on line content streamed or downloaded is not “true” HD.

Also, my demo’s were not scientific in any way. I was trying to demonstrate “real world” usage of most common files, sites etc. ;-)

I planed on getting some larger true HD files, and I found some on line ones too, and demo them. So much to do…so little time..LOL>

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  • Mike, check my forums. There is a guy that talks about getting the key from the OEM disc set on the revo.
  • Paul,

    Thanks for stopping by and giving your results thus far with the 3610!

  • I’ve had a few say this very same thing and have had little to answer for it. I did have a guy on the Boxee forums say that once her turned off UAC = User Account Control in Windows 7, then acceleration worked properly and video played smoothly.

    I have not tested this and it seems very, very unlikely that it is the cause, but if you have not done so…try it. That may be the key that is causing the issue for some Revo users.

  • Jeff,

    Boxee is running on a 64 bit Windows 7, but it runs in 32 bit mode. It is installed in the X86 folder on C by default. Runs really freakin’ nice now and GPU acceleration is working great on Flash, Silverlight, Move. Can’t wait for you all to be able to try it out!

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11 Responses to Justin, Most on line videos are not streamed in …

  1. Pingback: Acer Aspire Revo 3610 Atom ION 330 Review | Paul J Roberts

  2. Justin says:

    Hi Paul,

    Thank you for these two demos – the only thing that really concerned me was that when you were showing the stats for each video on test (both MKVs in this case), the frame rate was a low “15-17″ fps. With NTSC or PAL, normal display rates are 24, 25 or 30 fps.

    Didn’t this alarm you?

    Do you suspect the analysis is wrong, or are, in fact, frames being dropped?

    Regards,
    Justin
    Justin´s last blog ..Dell Zino HD headed for Australia .. ? My ComLuv Profile

  3. Paul Roberts says:

    Justin,

    Most on line videos are not streamed in TRUE 720P – 1080P format. They are typically 15-17 fps. If they were true HD quality, you’d need 2 mb’s per sec down load and the bandwidth used by the supplier would be HUGE. They call it HD, but it’s not exactly.

    Also, streaming at that level is taxing on CPU’s. Your bandwidth pipe better be damn good too. Any drop in the feed and it will drop FPS. Any lag in the CPU’s ability to process it and it will drop FPS.

    The Revo can and does Play full 1080P HD videos. It really does. But, most on line content streamed or downloaded is not “true” HD.

    Also, my demo’s were not scientific in any way. I was trying to demonstrate “real world” usage of most common files, sites etc. ;-)

    I planed on getting some larger true HD files, and I found some on line ones too, and demo them. So much to do…so little time..LOL>

  4. Jeff says:

    Are you running Boxee in 32 or 64-bit mode?

  5. Paul Roberts says:

    Jeff,

    Boxee is running on a 64 bit Windows 7, but it runs in 32 bit mode. It is installed in the X86 folder on C by default. Runs really freakin’ nice now and GPU acceleration is working great on Flash, Silverlight, Move. Can’t wait for you all to be able to try it out!

  6. James says:

    I just wanted to say that I bought the Acer Aspire Revo 3610 the day it was available to purchase and I’m quite disappointed with it. I have not had any luck getting my unit to playback video as smoothly as yours. I’ve tried streaming videos from Hulu as well as Youtube and the videos just look awful. Play back is extremely choppy, and it I can definitely see frameloss.

    I’ve tried various combinations between both Flash beta 10.1 & 10.2 along with the nvidia ion drivers that since supported GPU acceleration. I’m currently running Flash beta 10.2 along with the 195.81 drivers and I don’t know what else to do.

  7. Paul Roberts says:

    I’ve had a few say this very same thing and have had little to answer for it. I did have a guy on the Boxee forums say that once her turned off UAC = User Account Control in Windows 7, then acceleration worked properly and video played smoothly.

    I have not tested this and it seems very, very unlikely that it is the cause, but if you have not done so…try it. That may be the key that is causing the issue for some Revo users.

  8. Paul Silva says:

    Hi guys,
    I also bought a Revo 3610 (it was on sale at bestbuy) ;) and initially had the same problem as James. After uninstalling the incredible amount of bloatware that came with the system and updating the nVidia chipset *and* video driver from the nVidia site (not the acer site), the video is streaming quite nicely now.
    Also, I had the refresh rate at 85Hz which slowed things down as well. I dropped it to 60Hz. Good luck!

  9. Paul Roberts says:

    Paul,

    Thanks for stopping by and giving your results thus far with the 3610!

  10. Mike says:

    Paul

    I’ve been considering buying the 3610 after what appears to be an overwhelming amount of community support for this machine. The revision I am considering has the additional hardware (4gb RAM, and a 500gb HDD).

    People have mentioned clearing the pre-installed win7 of the typical Acer bloatware that you will be receiving. I have been using Acer computers for years, and they do have a lot of “bs” pre-installed.

    Is the key for windows install listed anywhere on the device? I work with an IT dept, and it would not be difficult for me to get an install of 64-bit Pro Win7 for no charge, but I’d like to know if the product key would be easy to find anywhere on the Revo itself so that I can essentially install a vanilla copy of Windows

  11. Mike, check my forums. There is a guy that talks about getting the key from the OEM disc set on the revo.